AVATAR ADI DA SAMRAJ: Having a message is not enough. You do not merely have a message. Your business is to have people actively respond and participate. For 30 years, you have completely failed to do this, because you do not practice and you are unwilling to organize yourselves and put energy into what you are doing. You are embarrassed to make use of your opportunities, and it is your obligation to have your activities create concrete relationship.

No matter what I say, in terms of the workings of what people are doing with My Literature, with education, with the website, with the mission, with whatever it is, even though it is in some sense being resurrected -- I use that word culturally in terms of a process -- there are still no concrete results yet. There is zero growth. Because you don't create a concrete way for people to participate, there is nothing for them to enter into, no means for them to enter into this Way.

You have to make it concrete every step of the way. Religion is a competitive business, and you can't sit back and be embarrassed by what we have and not demand appropriate response altogether. It is the weak-mindedness of the gathering that has created this.

QUANDRA SUKHAPUR: So we should have an entire plan for people to be involved in that invites them into something.

AVATAR ADI DA SAMRAJ: You only have results if people are participating for real. Everything else is just talk. You can't be weak-minded and succeed at the mission. And you can't expect that people will come to you already open-minded. You can't be silly nice guys, like vegetarians in the sixties with an Alpha attitude. Just passing the message around and inviting guests doesn't connect to anything that has to do with Me. Only response and active participation -- joining, having services, keeping people interested and active, having things for them to do -- that's your business.

So far, the organization has zero signs. Devotees are frightened. You are afraid to stand up for the Truth, so you are giving people no alternative. I'm not here to be a joke. I'm here to actually get people out of their stupidity. I'm here to do My Work now, and you do not have a planned gathering. You are so ambiguous as a gathering and a culture -- it's incomprehensible.

Your mission is not made concrete enough. There isn't anything for people to do. You don't tell them what to do. You could immediately activate this entire process today, but you do not make the directives to do what you have to do. In your weak-minded approach, I end up being ignored. You must have concrete gifts to give Me.

You have not defined what you are offering, so that people will want to join. You have to vigorously counter the growing sentiment against gurus, which is fueled by the anti-cult movement. You are not living religious tolerance. The principle of religious tolerance has to be actively defended and championed -- otherwise, it is in danger of being overridden.

This Way is not about conventional belief systems. My Books tell you where it's really at. So it is obvious that you are not doing anything with My Work yet. It is not just a message. You have to invite people into something they can participate in. The only way to tell whether you are really doing the mission is by whether people are concretely participating. You tell by the fact that people buy the next book, take the next course, sign up for the next activity. That's how you tell.

How can there possible be zero growth, with all the Gifts I have Given? There is no way, with all the Gifts I have Given, that you couldn't succeed, unless you are hiding behind some kind of false belief, some lack of doing.

You have to create modes and places of access. So it must be clearly understood how the devotional and Spiritual relationship to Me is lived. It's about a profound life of practice, and that's what My 23 Books are about -- not cultism. Because you are all so weak-minded, after 30 years of resisting your responsibility, you are satisfied with maintaining a social and phony scene that defeats everything real. Serious practice is not engaged.

Adidam is about a way of life. It's about modes of access. It's about real renunciates. You have to be clear on what a true response is. It has to make a difference for a person to join. A book is not sufficient. What you are inviting people to engage in is a Way of life. That is what you have to create. There are no devotee communities of size. There is no energy or process that people can be occupied with. The publication of the books does not amount to a mission. You have to make a mission with the Way. There is no mission that requires people's participation.

You are weak-minded in your educational courses, occupying people for years on end without actually requiring them to do anything. The fact that there is zero growth means that you aren't offering anything concrete for people to be attracted to. Therefore you are preventing people from those things. You are making it sound like a twinkie little group -- and that's why people don't want to have anything to do with it, and they end up not doing anything.

How could you have zero growth? You are excusing yourselves with this zero growth plan being continued, because you are not getting down to what I am talking about. You have nothing but Means. After 30 years, you should have engaged all kinds of cooperative forms of associations with business and creation of this culture. But you all just wanted your independent lives. So this gathering has gone into self-destruct for 30 years, instead of doing what was required.

If that is the case, then I am no one's Master. That is not Spiritual life. You do not do what you have to do, so the gifts of service accomplished are not there. I am associated with a religion business process that doesn't feel it has any obligations. It makes promises instead of working on it. I just sit here with this little handful. You have to start putting out. You never have anything to tell Me. There is never any significant growth. There is never any change in relationship. There is no change in the cultural process. There is nothing anyone really says to Me. You could tell people what to do tomorrow that could make a difference, but nobody is doing that. No one is just creating it and doing it. And that's the difference between talking in this tedious fashion, involved in endless planning, and actually doing it. How long is all the stuff you are talking about doing to take? What are you doing to do -- wait for the next excuse? There can't be an excuse.

QUANDRA SUKHAPUR: It's true. We have to prove out devotion and our strength and we are going to have to stand up for what we believe. And it's time to do it. Everybody talks about it, but then we never do it. So it's just time.

AVATAR ADI DA SAMRAJ: People should not come unless they bring gifts. There is no basis for My Blessing Work unless there is a response. Where do you think the Blessing comes from? It comes from the response.